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« on: June 17, 2004, 01:28:19 AM »

Hi everyone.
 
 I'm thinking of starting my own business and have a few questions if anyone can help.
 
 I'd start out as a sole trader but was wandering about choosing a name.
 
 Now could I register a company name i.e. Monkey Nuts Services and then register different names for each service that I provided i.e. MonkeyPlumbing, MonkeyElectrics as seperate entities all belonging to Monkey Nuts Services etc?
 
 Also would someone else be able to use the name Monkey Nuts Services Ltd as a limited company after I had already setup as Monkey Nuts Services (sole trader)?
 
 Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2004, 08:38:48 AM »

Heh, you'll almost certainly be persuaded out of the idea by a registered accountant - at least, I was when I was asking about this the other week. Smiley
 
 As a sole trader you have fiscal responsibility only for your own self-trading company. The name you choose shouldn't be too much of an issue - unless you're planning on coveting any established brand names.
 
 Now, as an accountant will be able to advise, there are different advantages for sole traders, and registered companies - namely in terms of tax and income. Generally, where your income is low (ie, in the tens of thousands, rather than 100's of thousands) AND your liabilities are low, then it can make sense to remain as a sole trader because you can withdraw more income from your business without having to pay so much tax.
 
 However, if you have significant financial liabilities (such as large borrowing concerns) then you will certainly need to become a registered company to protect your personal assets from being liable to pay off any outstanding debtors you may have.
 
 Now, the rub comes when you own a string of company names - you would effectively need to do the books for every single business entitiy - and would likely end up paying for an accountant to do the books for *each* of these companies. If your accountant is charging £1,500 to audit the yearly books for each company, then you can appreciate that the costs can increase. Smiley
 
 Generally, you'll find that it may well be best to concentrate on developing a single company, and although keep your expansion plans in mind, only go for it when you feel that the financial situation demands advantages from doing so.
 
 Ideally, though, you would need to speak with a registered accountant - they should be able to provide much clearer and more detailed information on the entire matter. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2006, 05:23:11 PM »

I think Brian makes some good points here.

Beyond what Brian has said, there is also a question in mind about the perception people will have of you - Unless you are a conducting sizeable business, I as a client would be confused as I'd find it difficult to place you. People want to know who they are doing business with.

My preference would be for an all encompassing name.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2006, 07:20:58 AM »

I would vouch for a single entity rather than smaller ones.  Microsoft has many division but they are normally simple names "The games division of Microsoft, etc. etc."

On personal notes...Monkey plumbing and monkey electrics sound a little odd, wouldn't you think?  I wouldn't want my plumbing to have a monkey-job done...but maybe that's just me.
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2006, 03:16:41 PM »

I second you on names Slashmire

There used to be an advert on telly for an insurance related organisation which is supposed to help organisations deciede on the best insurance provider.

The advert starts with a man shouting confused and then going on to talk about confused. I thought it was totally the wrong name ~ and message.
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2006, 04:07:56 AM »

This is a good point.  I always remember being mystified by Cucumber Communications.  What the heck does a cucumber have to do with telephone service?

Actually, come to think of it.. it might have been a travel agency.  I don't remember.
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2006, 05:56:50 PM »

Cucumber communication?
Cucumber travels? Cheesy

Wow...well I'd be intrigued...even better if their transport was cucumber-shaped Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2006, 10:49:17 PM »

Maybe Cucumber is some unfortunate guy's surname?  Tongue Only ever heard of Cucumber Cooling Systems. I like that.
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2006, 01:40:11 AM »

Personally, I believe you can use most names, it's how you use them.

Cucumber cooling systems works because people talk about being as cool as a cucumber
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2006, 02:52:03 PM »

Cucumber cooling systems is good!

When I first started my t-shirt ecom store, I was going to call it Tee Depot.  Cute I thought.    Until people told me they either thought it was about trainds (depot) or golf (tees).  I changed the name pronto.
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2006, 05:51:48 PM »

Sometime it also depends on how a name is shown to you; I bet "T-Depot" would not have given the same feel as "Tee Depot"  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2006, 05:59:19 PM »

I agree with you that - especially if you stylised the wording.
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2006, 08:57:16 PM »

Yup, I agree, it's all how you use them. Also, it's important to test run your name with other people because they really do see things you usually don't.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2006, 10:00:23 AM »

Sometimes a different company name can work by being memorable - obvious cucumber and monkey names appear memorable. Smiley

But then, of course, you need to ensure you're memorable for the right reasons. Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2006, 07:34:50 PM »

I try to choose something that rolls off your tongue and will be memorable. I do stuff on line, so to me that's important...
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